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i'm been studying shaolin for 2 and 1/2 years and just received an orange sash. since i've never been to other schools, i wonder how novice i am.
this is what i've done as for as forms: 24 beats, tan toi, shaolin 6, staff set, shaolin 7, and currently learning wing chun.....what about your school?
this is what i've done as for as forms: 24 beats, tan toi, shaolin 6, staff set, shaolin 7, and currently learning wing chun.....what about your school?
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Re: what does an orange sash mean?
Wed, January 26, 2005 - 4:17 PMI would imagine you sash colors are specific to your school -- what school, what teachings...
I study traditional wing chun, and ther is no orange. blue/green/black/red -
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Re: what does an orange sash mean?
Wed, January 26, 2005 - 8:50 PMthanks for your reply.
does that mean red is the highest ranking? do you find that female students in your school fair better sometimes? do you find that asians have an easier time because of the body type?
cheers, red
(i like that your pic as amedeus is so different than a martial arts guy i picture) -
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Re: what does an orange sash mean?
Wed, January 26, 2005 - 10:47 PMthanks. i like amadeus, he had the sweetest piano skills. i think a schools color choice is just is code, it means something to whoever made it up. maybe you have heard the stories of a woman discovering wing chun, it uses theory and practice, not just practice – so not relying on strength and size, but form and energy. It can work on all bodies, think of sensitivity -- if you are tight and small you rock because you are fast and dexterous employing multiple variations to dominate, immobilize and destroy your enemy with simultaneous attack and defense.
so i mean yeah, you would be great!
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Re: what does an orange sash mean?
Sun, May 3, 2009 - 10:31 AMYes, I trained at a school in New York and we all wore red sashes. The only denotation of rank was a yin/yang lapel pin that had different stages of the dragon, each an elemental form (water, earth, fire, air) to the highest (spirit dragon) We wore the traditional Tai Chi uniforms and these were different colors- starting with black, then blue and the sashes were tied off to the left side of the waist for students and the sefu wore his sash to the right. I think many Kung Fu schools have different ways of doing things, but we never had any other colored sashes. It's not like Karate with the strict ranking by belts. I hope this helps.
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Re: what does an orange sash mean?
Tue, June 20, 2006 - 6:51 AMThis is interesting because we don't have any sashes...well we have a yellow sash, but everyone does no matter how good your fu is (Even shifu wears the yellow if he decides to actually don the sash). Does anybody go along with the "justifying" what you have learned theory of sashes? It provides a visual sense of accomplishment. I'm not against it or anything, so don't get the wrong idea...but from a few Fu ppl and karate ppl i know I have heard the classic story (this is just a basic scenario) of "Hey how come that guy is better than me and i have learned/know more and am a <insert color here> sash???"
From my perspective a "orange" sash is a way to destinguish how far in a particular style you have progresses. Thats all at the teachers discretion and i have seen numerous changes/additional colors added (even within different schools of the same size). Moral of my story is don't let your sash color determine how novice you think you are or aren't. You may know one form or set of drills and still have better fu than a guy who has 10. There is an old M.A. saying that says...never fear the man that practices 10 different kicks ten time a day. Fear the man that practices 1 kick 100 times a day!!"
Amituofo! -
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Re: what does an orange sash mean?
Tue, June 20, 2006 - 6:52 AMOh and that comment about the asian body type thing...I had a discussion with that with someone once. I wouldn't mind seeing that as another topic. GO FOR IT RED!!!!!!! ; ) -
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Re: what does an orange sash mean?
Tue, June 20, 2006 - 7:52 AMMy school's sash system was loosly based on what I think were colours for robes of monks of different grade.
first yellow/orange, next level up is blue, then black, then red. We also had a green in there, but I don't know that the shaolin temple ever had green robes.
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Re: what does an orange sash mean?
Tue, June 20, 2006 - 8:28 AMThe standard for a disciple in shaolin is either grey or blue (even the blue is along the greyish lines) if I'm not mistaken. and orange is usually the mark of a senior student or monk when in what i guess you would call training robes. The robes you see in the old shaw Bros. films are pretty accurate. The formal wear of a shaolin monk is the yellow under robe and the red cloth (sorry I'm not that knowledgable yet to know what it's called) around the shoulder draping down I've even seen my shifu wear brown (substituting the red cloth). Only a ordained monk wears that setup though. Any other colors I'm not sure of...maybe just for look? LOL I've seen pictures of Shi Xing Hong wearing anything from those colors to light blue and white as well as a few other monks wearing other colors...might be like formal vs. informal wear???
I'm "guessing" now but maybe regular different colors are loosely based (in the temple) on the fact that they're just running around out in the dirt training? LOL Otherwise...ceremonially/formally, the above is the standard. You can get a few Shi De Yang form dvd's and see him with usually 2/3 of his students in the background working the form with him and the have a standard greyish/blue robe with yellow sash on.
BTW Shi De Yang is THE MAN. He doesn't speak a lick of english but we had the pleasure of having a special dinner with the majority of the student body and I must say even just to greet him/be in his presence is something extraordinary.
Amituofo!
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Re: what does an orange sash mean?
Tue, June 20, 2006 - 9:24 AMYeah christien...sounds like you have a nice "east meets west" blend in regards to sashes. Cool.
Amituofo
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